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You make too much money.I've said this for years, and every now and then an issue crops up underscoring the reality that American wages, your wages, have nowhere to go but down.Case in point: Last week Michigan was roiled by the passage of a "right-to-work" law aimed at eviscerating unions. The whol...

 

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52skidoo

and higher rates of uninsured healthcare...

 

and higher worker death rates...

 

what a deal !

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You make too much money.I've said this for years, and every now and then an issue crops up underscoring the reality that American wages, your wages, have nowhere to go but down.Case in point: Last week Michigan was roiled by the passage of a "right-to-work" law aimed at eviscerating unions. The whol...

 

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The law's intent is not to eviscerate unions, it is to give workers a choice as to whether they want to join or not.If the American worker chooses to say yes to the union then the union will thrive.The union is in a position to show it's worth to the American worker.

 

and higher rates of uninsured healthcare...

 

and higher worker death rates...

 

what a deal !

 

right to work states have higher worker death rates?

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52skidoo

According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics....

the rate of workplace deaths is 52.9% higher in states with Right-to-Work laws.

 

 

http://www.mnaflcio....-laws-get-facts

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mrkglsr65

A worker has a right to choose whether he wants to be a union member or not. Or you can just bully him into it by using some regulation.

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A worker has a right to choose whether he wants to be a union member or not. Or you can just bully him into it by using some regulation.

 

Also a worker has a right to minimum wage.

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Farmer Vincent

Also a worker has a right to minimum wage.

 

Maybe I had it wrong all along. Maybe people do want to be poor, one serious illness away from bankruptcy, and have no pension. Be forced to get food stamps in order to feed the kiddies, but never think of yourself as one of the takers. Maybe that's why they've been voting R in the past three elections, because the new American dream is to dream about being rich without actually having money and admire the filthy rich from afar, see pictures of the houses, private jets, yachts, cars, and toys and mentally hearing them described in the late Robin Leach's voice. Lol.

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But both sides of the debate are alike in one thing: blowing the issue out of proportion. For a long time, we've had a bloc of states with right-to-work laws and a bloc of states without. In both places, with few exceptions, the decline of unions has been steady. Regardless of whether policies like these get enacted or repealed, it's only going to continue.

 

It's not even clear that right-to-work laws by themselves make a meaningful difference in anything. Iowa is a right-to-work state, but its unionization rate is higher than that next door in Missouri, which is not. Kansas has a bigger union presence with right-to-work than adjacent Colorado has without.

 

One big study cited by supporters found that when Oklahoma passed one of these measures, it reduced union membership but had no effect on manufacturing employment or earnings. Idaho saw an increase in manufacturing jobs but none in per capita income. All this brings to mind what screenwriter William Goldman said is the crucial fact about the movie business: "Nobody knows anything."

 

Right-to-work laws or not, mandatory collective bargaining or not, inexorable forces have weakened unions and eroded their presence. The battle over labor laws makes for great theater, but for the most part, theater is all it is.

http://reason.com/ar...ht-to-work-laws

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o311mc

According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics....

the rate of workplace deaths is 52.9% higher in states with Right-to-Work laws.

 

 

http://www.mnaflcio....-laws-get-facts

I would expect the AFLCIO to say unions are more protective of workers, wouldn't you?

 

an opposing viewpoint.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/right-to-work-states-vs-union-shop-states-where-is-the-worker-better-off/question-3387235/

 

 

not sure how the AFLCIO gleaned the right to work vs non right to work infor from this website?

http://data.bls.gov/search/query/results?q=union worker deaths vs no union worker deaths. maybe I'm searching ot wrong?

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Right to work for less â€“> Workers' advocates say they've collected 300,000 signatures — three times the number required to put Missouri's new union-defunding "right-to-work" law to a public referendum. Jason Hancock reports for The Kansas City Star that the law will be suspended until Missouri voters weigh in.

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Right to work for less â€“> Workers' advocates say they've collected 300,000 signatures — three times the number required to put Missouri's new union-defunding "right-to-work" law to a public referendum. Jason Hancock reports for The Kansas City Star that the law will be suspended until Missouri voters weigh in.

it will be interesting to see how this goes, how strong are the unions in Mo?

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Pope John Paul II in 1981 issued an encyclical titled “Laborem exercens,†or “Through Work.†He attacked the idea, fundamental to capitalism, that work was merely an exchange of money for labor. Work, he wrote, should not be reduced to the commodification of human beings through wages. Workers were not impersonal instruments to be manipulated like inanimate objects to increase profit. Work was essential to human dignity and self-fulfillment. It gave us a sense of empowerment and identity. It allowed us to build a relationship with society in which we could feel we contributed to social harmony and social cohesion, a relationship in which we had purpose.

 

The pope castigated unemployment, underemployment, inadequate wages, automation and a lack of job security as violations of human dignity. These conditions, he wrote, were forces that negated self-esteem, personal satisfaction, responsibility and creativity. The exaltation of the machine, he warned, reduced human beings to the status of slaves. He called for full employment, a minimum wage large enough to support a family, the right of a parent to stay home with children, and jobs and a living wage for the disabled. He advocated, in order to sustain strong families, universal health insurance, pensions, accident insurance and work schedules that permitted free time and vacations. He wrote that all workers should have the right to form unions with the ability to strike.

 

The encyclical said:

[in spite of toil]—perhaps, in a sense, because of it—work is a good thing for man. Even though it bears the mark of a
, in the terminology of Saint Thomas, this does not take away the fact that, as such, it is a good thing for man. It is not only good in the sense that it is useful or something to enjoy; it is also good as being something worthy, that is to say, something that corresponds to man’s dignity, that expresses this dignity and increases it. If one wishes to define more clearly the ethical meaning of work, it is this truth that one must particularly keep in mind. Work is a good thing for man—a good thing for his humanity—because through work man not only transforms nature, adapting it to his own needs, but he also achieves fulfillment as a human being and indeed, in a sense, becomes “more a human being.â€

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/diseases-of-despair/

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Sen. Warren: Stop the corporate “right to work†race to the bottom

 

So-called “right to work†laws are designed to give more power to corporate bosses by allowing some people to take advantage of union bargaining without supporting the union. The weaker unions are, the lower wages are for everyone – one study found that wages for all workers were 16 percent lower in so-called “right to work†states.

 

Massive international corporations play one state off against another, seeking ever-more extreme anti-union laws. Instead of competing to make sure everyone can find a good-paying job to support a family, state governments rush to bow down before mega corporations and beg for their favor. It’s a race to the bottom, and only one national standard will put an end to it.

 

https://act.credoaction.com/sign/warren_right_to_work

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‘Right-to-work’ crusaders attack New Mexico workers

 

In a not too surprising development, anti-worker rightwing organizations have launched a new attack on organized labor and the working class. In non-right-to-work states, Americans for Prosperity — a Koch Brothers-sponsored organization — is leading a crusade to use the county level to enact right-to-work ordinances. For several years now, rightwing organizations have led successful campaigns to pass statewide right-to-work laws.

 

Oct 29, 2017
 

 

Twenty-eight states have now enacted so-called “right-to-work†laws. These laws prohibit unions from requiring new employees to join the onsite unions and pay dues as a condition of employment. In other words, new workers can enjoy all of the benefits of union membership — better pay, better benefits, safer job sites and better unemployment protection — all hard won over several years but do not have to pay dues or belong to the union. In essence, they get a free ride.

 

In states where right-to-work laws have been unable to pass state legislatures, anti-worker organizations have developed a new tactic: develop and support county ordinances that establish right-to-work laws.

 

In 2012, Americans for Prosperity worked to pass such legislation in six Kentucky counties. When challenged in federal court, the justices ruled in favor of the counties, setting the stage for Kentucky to later pass a statewide right-to-work law. Now, other counties are investigating similar strategies.

 

This new ploy is part of a long-term strategy by the U.S. capitalist class. The United States is unique among industrialized countries with capitalist resistance to working class organization relentless and often violent. It is also unique in that its government — at all levels — has worked closely with the capitalist class to help corporations and businesses successfully resist unionization. All three branches of government have used legislation, executive orders and injunctions to defeat strikes and limit organization drives.

 

https://www.liberationnews.org/use-this-one-rightwork-crusaders-bring-their-municipal-strategy-to-new-mexico/

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Posted on PennLive today.

This writer is the PA State Director of the Koch-funded Americans for Prosperity. (To her/their credit, that is posted at the end of her column.)

 

 

 

To compete with our neighbors, Pa. needs Right-to-Work | Opinion

Updated on November 1, 2017 at 9:05 AM  

Posted on November 1, 2017 at 9:00 AM

 

http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/2017/11/to_compete_with_our_neighbors.html

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EPI maps the campaign to suppress worker rights in the states

 

EPI released an interactive map that paints a disturbing picture of the rise of anti-worker preemption laws across the country. The map shows which states have blocked cities and counties from improving workers’ wages and working conditions. Workers in St. Louis, for example, got a boost when the city increased its minimum wage to $10—but the Missouri state legislature knocked it back down to $7.70 and 31,000 workers lost a raise. The map plots preemption activity in five key areas of labor and employment: minimum wage, paid leave, fair work schedules, prevailing wage, and project labor agreements.

 

View the map » http://www.epi.org/preemption-map/?utm_source=Economic+Policy+Institute&utm_campaign=cd3c73c12a-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_11_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e7c5826c50-cd3c73c12a-59412685&mc_cid=cd3c73c12a&mc_eid=b4c4d6eae6

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Janus: Billionaires Take on Public Employees and their Unions

 

If the Gorsuch Supreme Court prevails in Janus, they will succeed in weakening unions, lowering wages and benefits for public employees, while exacerbating the savage inequality that already subverts our democracy.

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Janus: Billionaires Take on Public Employees and their Unions

 

If the Gorsuch Supreme Court prevails in Janus, they will succeed in weakening unions, lowering wages and benefits for public employees, while exacerbating the savage inequality that already subverts our democracy.

That's quite the roll up of this? One could also say that the unfair advantage created and protected by the union took a well deserve bump on the noggin. The union is soaking up the wages of employees to keep themselves whole and strong, would be another argument.

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