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Really. "Ordinary troublemakers"? And who would that be?

 

You really consider someone who asks questions of an administrator a troublemaker?

 

I've stayed off this thread and off the board for the most part, but that reference is just plain uncalled for.

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FDR

Really. "Ordinary troublemakers"? And who would that be?

 

You really consider someone who asks questions of an administrator a troublemaker?

 

I've stayed off this thread and off the board for the most part, but that reference is just plain uncalled for.

 

What is uncalled for imo is someone questioning the motives of individuals who devote hundreds of hours to establishing a place like this(with no monetary reimbursement or any gain what so ever) for everyone to enjoy and voice their opinions on while at the same time they have no problem subscribing to another board or site that is purely for profit. I ask you what possible motivation would any of the mods or admins have for deleting a thread? FTR I don't think the thread should have been deleted. As with any new venture there will be growing pains and this is to be expected don't you think? Ask the admins and mods of other boards if they had some issues when they first started. I've dealt with this before and there is always some BS that goes on until things get settled in. A good example would be a comment on another site that ranted about how joining was a hassle and they weren't wanted in here. That isn't the case at all. There were a few bugs in the software and setup that were missed but as far as we all know it has been corrected. OOPS! Another mistake by individuals trying hard here but no one is perfect.

 

I may not go as far as to call you a troublemaker but I'll say that there might have been a more effective way to get your point across and help us all adjust this site if adjustment is needed. You wouldn't agree with me would you?

 

Enjoy this place or don't, but at the very least show a little respect for what has been done here in an effort to provide it for you and everyone else.

 

All I'm going to say about this issue. Thanks to everyone for your efforts and thanks to those who appreciate this forum for what it is and what everyone will make it!

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gp80mac

Really. "Ordinary troublemakers"? And who would that be?

 

You really consider someone who asks questions of an administrator a troublemaker?

 

I've stayed off this thread and off the board for the most part, but that reference is just plain uncalled for.

 

Let me be frank. (Hi frank!). If this forum bothers you that much and you do not agree with it, then why post? Is it really worth the personal hassle for you? There's enough in life to get all upset about - so getting all worked up about a small internet forum serving one small geographic area just seems petty. There's lots of sites I do not like, so I don't visit them. There's also threads that I enjoy visiting, even if it isn't 100% holding hands and signing Kumbaya.

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Really. "Ordinary troublemakers"? And who would that be?

 

You really consider someone who asks questions of an administrator a troublemaker?

 

I've stayed off this thread and off the board for the most part, but that reference is just plain uncalled for.

 

Over the top paperdoll. No one has ever insinuated that you were a trouble maker. We have had trouble with the cRoW, not you.

 

You have provided some interesting perspective on a number of topics. Please continue to do so.

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City's reply was over the top for a moderator. One of the reasons numerous people will not be joining.

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City's reply was over the top for a moderator. One of the reasons numerous people will not be joining.

Exactly what is your purpose for making a statement like that?

 

Specifically, what do you hope to achieve from it?

 

You must have had a very good reason to leave a post like that one, otherwise you would have simply kept quiet.

 

I really would like to know.

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Did not comment for a couple days. Thought the same thing you said. Should just stay quiet.

 

Then talked to a few other long time TB posters and all had the same thought.

 

You guys requested feedback. So you got it.

 

No other agenda. Thought you should know how some people feel and the reason some are not registering.

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City's reply was over the top for a moderator. One of the reasons numerous people will not be joining.

Exactly what is your purpose for making a statement like that?

 

Specifically, what do you hope to achieve from it?

 

You must have had a very good reason to leave a post like that one, otherwise you would have simply kept quiet.

 

I really would like to know.

 

Honestly Artie, it really doesn't matter. At the end of the day there are those who will not join and they will list a hundred reasons except for the real one. They have a problem with one person or another on here and always have.

 

For example "I've sent messages and no response from the club so I'll not be joining" Boo hoo! Any normal thinking individual would realize that this is new and there were a few bugs to be worked out by us volunteers(yes everyone for the most part we have full time jobs but still do our best to provide this place for you) not to mention most of us are amateurs and learning how this all works. But lets all crucify them for not being perfect shall we. LOL

 

Lets see example number two.....oh yes! "That mod doesn't like me so I'll get harassed or banned" This one is the funniest of all! Look everyone, if a mod does something like this they won't be a mod much longer! We all agreed to the rules and we will enforce them on our "own" as well as members. We have more regulations on the mods then we do the members to prevent this very issue that some are afraid of.

 

There are many more excuses but that's all they are. Excuses are like....well, do I need to say it? :rolleyes:

 

I have some threads to go contribute to now so carry on everyone.

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Did not comment for a couple days. Thought the same thing you said. Should just stay quiet.

 

Then talked to a few other long time TB posters and all had the same thought.

 

You guys requested feedback. So you got it.

 

No other agenda. Thought you should know how some people feel and the reason some are not registering.

I am sorry that you feel this way. We're all human and make mistakes. Admins and moderators have personal lives that sometimes are stressful.

 

Please give it some time and come back when the bru ha ha is over. Many of us miss our friends from LOL TB and hope at some point they will register.

 

In the meantime, stay cool and have a nice summer.

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City's reply was over the top for a moderator. One of the reasons numerous people will not be joining.

Exactly what is your purpose for making a statement like that?

 

Specifically, what do you hope to achieve from it?

 

You must have had a very good reason to leave a post like that one, otherwise you would have simply kept quiet.

 

I really would like to know.

 

Honestly Artie, it really doesn't matter. At the end of the day there are those who will not join and they will list a hundred reasons except for the real one. They have a problem with one person or another on here and always have.

 

For example "I've sent messages and no response from the club so I'll not be joining" Boo hoo! Any normal thinking individual would realize that this is new and there were a few bugs to be worked out by us volunteers(yes everyone for the most part we have full time jobs but still do our best to provide this place for you) not to mention most of us are amateurs and learning how this all works. But lets all crucify them for not being perfect shall we. LOL

 

Lets see example number two.....oh yes! "That mod doesn't like me so I'll get harassed or banned" This one is the funniest of all! Look everyone, if a mod does something like this they won't be a mod much longer! We all agreed to the rules and we will enforce them on our "own" as well as members. We have more regulations on the mods then we do the members to prevent this very issue that some are afraid of.

 

There are many more excuses but that's all they are. Excuses are like....well, do I need to say it? :rolleyes:

 

I have some threads to go contribute to now so carry on everyone.

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OOPS? :)

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City's reply was over the top for a moderator. One of the reasons numerous people will not be joining.

Exactly what is your purpose for making a statement like that?

 

Specifically, what do you hope to achieve from it?

 

You must have had a very good reason to leave a post like that one, otherwise you would have simply kept quiet.

 

I really would like to know.

 

Honestly Artie, it really doesn't matter. At the end of the day there are those who will not join and they will list a hundred reasons except for the real one. They have a problem with one person or another on here and always have.

 

For example "I've sent messages and no response from the club so I'll not be joining" Boo hoo! Any normal thinking individual would realize that this is new and there were a few bugs to be worked out by us volunteers(yes everyone for the most part we have full time jobs but still do our best to provide this place for you) not to mention most of us are amateurs and learning how this all works. But lets all crucify them for not being perfect shall we. LOL

 

Lets see example number two.....oh yes! "That mod doesn't like me so I'll get harassed or banned" This one is the funniest of all! Look everyone, if a mod does something like this they won't be a mod much longer! We all agreed to the rules and we will enforce them on our "own" as well as members. We have more regulations on the mods then we do the members to prevent this very issue that some are afraid of.

 

There are many more excuses but that's all they are. Excuses are like....well, do I need to say it? :rolleyes:

 

I have some threads to go contribute to now so carry on everyone.

 

Take the blinders off.

 

Re-read the thread.

 

If you really can't see any problem with the posts that citydweller has made in light of the fact that he is the Head Guy,

then you really don't get it. And blaming visitors to your board instead of taking a hard look at the animosity expressed

will continue to be a stumbling block to your success.

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There's plenty of forums where everyone is all huggy-feely and and moderators act like Kindergarten teachers, or even hide and make their decisions in private. At least Steve (And the other moderators) have the balls to address these people directly and bluntly. It's actually a nice change from some other sites.

 

It's pretty bad when you won't even post your real fake screen name. You say people won't join, yet you are reading and posting.. I mean, what the hell? You're like the good little christian woman that has to watch the hard core porn flick 32 times to make sure she knows exactly what's so dirty about it.

 

You don't like the forum, then fine. Go find somewhere else. It's a big internet. It's pretty sad when you make your life mission to disrupt a little website. I kind of feel sorry for you.

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City's reply was over the top for a moderator. One of the reasons numerous people will not be joining.

Exactly what is your purpose for making a statement like that?

 

Specifically, what do you hope to achieve from it?

 

You must have had a very good reason to leave a post like that one, otherwise you would have simply kept quiet.

 

I really would like to know.

 

Honestly Artie, it really doesn't matter. At the end of the day there are those who will not join and they will list a hundred reasons except for the real one. They have a problem with one person or another on here and always have.

 

For example "I've sent messages and no response from the club so I'll not be joining" Boo hoo! Any normal thinking individual would realize that this is new and there were a few bugs to be worked out by us volunteers(yes everyone for the most part we have full time jobs but still do our best to provide this place for you) not to mention most of us are amateurs and learning how this all works. But lets all crucify them for not being perfect shall we. LOL

 

Lets see example number two.....oh yes! "That mod doesn't like me so I'll get harassed or banned" This one is the funniest of all! Look everyone, if a mod does something like this they won't be a mod much longer! We all agreed to the rules and we will enforce them on our "own" as well as members. We have more regulations on the mods then we do the members to prevent this very issue that some are afraid of.

 

There are many more excuses but that's all they are. Excuses are like....well, do I need to say it? :rolleyes:

 

I have some threads to go contribute to now so carry on everyone.

 

Take the blinders off.

 

Re-read the thread.

 

If you really can't see any problem with the posts that citydweller has made in light of the fact that he is the Head Guy,

then you really don't get it. And blaming visitors to your board instead of taking a hard look at the animosity expressed

will continue to be a stumbling block to your success.

 

I've read the thread in it's entirety more then once. There are things that went on that many including myself don't agree with. Why revisit is again and again if the problem as been addressed? Showing back up here dumping gas on the fire serves what purpose other then to boost ones own ego maybe? It's especially sad when a lot of the comments being made are false with no basis and it has people forming opinions about this board and the other one as well. They both have some great things about them just as TB did at one time. That said both TalkPa and LancTalk are much better places to be then TB was.

 

One of the things that led to TB's demise was under-moderation and at the same time over-moderation can result in failure as well. Everyone has opinions of how many mods it takes and I've seen successful boards with a few and successful boards with 20 or more. With the broad base of issues and debates that occur in a place like this often times more is better especially since it is all done on a volunteer basis. I was banned from TB numerous times and it was for questioning the mods. just as was done on this thread. I baited the mods and instead of react in any way they just clicked the ban button. You won't have that here! City could have responded "it's okay friend, I'll take care of your issue. It won't happen again. Is there anything else I can help you with today?" You're dealing with real people here who aren't on a payroll so sometimes things will get heated and that is one of the things that make a board like this interesting but when it becomes detrimental to everyone something will have to be done about it.

 

All that said you wouldn't agree that there would have been a better way to ask the question that spawned this thread? The question itself basically insinuated that mods or admins were holding grudges and playing with people. I gaurantee that isn't and never will be the case! If it is I won't be here long myself and I plan on seeing this through because it has great potential!

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Wowy. Reading much more into this then necessary.

 

A poster asked why a post was deleted. A disucssion occured. An admin cussed and berated a poster. That post was not deleted.

 

If cursing and attacking posters are allowed on this board then I am sure numerous folks will sign up tomorrow.

 

If it is a double-standard of certain rules for admins and certain rules for posters, that speaks for itself.

 

Plain and simple.

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Wowy. Reading much more into this then necessary.

 

A poster asked why a post was deleted. A disucssion occured. An admin cussed and berated a poster. That post was not deleted.

 

If cursing and attacking posters are allowed on this board then I am sure numerous folks will sign up tomorrow.

 

If it is a double-standard of certain rules for admins and certain rules for posters, that speaks for itself.

 

Plain and simple.

 

We've obviously made progress since you keep coming back. ;) Enjoy yourself or don't, it's your choice.

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Wowy. Reading much more into this then necessary.

 

A poster asked why a post was deleted. A disucssion occured. An admin cussed and berated a poster. That post was not deleted.

 

If cursing and attacking posters are allowed on this board then I am sure numerous folks will sign up tomorrow.

 

If it is a double-standard of certain rules for admins and certain rules for posters, that speaks for itself.

 

Plain and simple.

 

First there is cursing.

 

Next thing there will be dancing.

 

Where will the damned insanity end??????

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Where will the damned insanity end??????

 

Well ...... I was going to put the idea of two-piece bathing suits up before the staff for approval, but now I'm re-thinking it. Might be a bit much, considering the climate.

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Where will the damned insanity end??????

 

Well ...... I was going to put the idea of two-piece bathing suits up before the staff for approval, but now I'm re-thinking it. Might be a bit much, considering the climate.

 

Thongs?

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Where will the damned insanity end??????

 

Well ...... I was going to put the idea of two-piece bathing suits up before the staff for approval, but now I'm re-thinking it. Might be a bit much, considering the climate.

 

Thongs?

Personally, I don't care if people are naked when they participate in the discussions here.

 

Besides, it might liven things up a bit...

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Personally, I don't care if people are naked when they participate in the discussions here.

 

Besides, it might liven things up a bit...

 

 

You mean we weren't supposed to be doing that already????

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Personally, I don't care if people are naked when they participate in the discussions here.

 

Besides, it might liven things up a bit...

 

 

You mean we weren't supposed to be doing that already????

As long as your web cam is not connected to a live feed on this forum, it should be OK.

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Artie - don't be giving these guys any ideas. :o

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Where will the damned insanity end??????

 

Well ...... I was going to put the idea of two-piece bathing suits up before the staff for approval, but now I'm re-thinking it. Might be a bit much, considering the climate.

 

Thongs?

Personally, I don't care if people are naked when they participate in the discussions here.

 

Besides, it might liven things up a bit...

 

 

Artie,

I thought everyone knew,I always post naked.Can`t you see??

 

But who are you chasing, Hammer??! cool.gif

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This sounds a lot like the old TalkBack and you know what?

I never thought the old TalkBack was as bad as some thought it was.

 

Citydweller was helpful in looking up things for me. I guess my first

attempt at joining was eaten up by the spam monster somewhere. I must remember,

also to delete cookies on a regular basis. I think this old computer rebels.

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This sounds a lot like the old TalkBack and you know what?

I never thought the old TalkBack was as bad as some thought it was.

 

Citydweller was helpful in looking up things for me. I guess my first

attempt at joining was eaten up by the spam monster somewhere. I must remember,

also to delete cookies on a regular basis. I think this old computer rebels.

 

Nice to "hear" from you Wonder. Please join in - we're a friendly crowd. Like everyone else we all have our issues to deal with so please be patient.

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Nice to "hear" from you Wonder. Please join in - we're a friendly crowd. Like everyone else we all have our issues to deal with so please be patient.

 

And pants are not required for posting!

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They are if you're sitting at my computer desk!! Not only for the obvious reasons but b/c one of the dogs has a habit of jumping on ones lap unannounced.

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City's reply was over the top for a moderator. One of the reasons numerous people will not be joining.

Let's see if I got this straight.

Thread with question disappeared. Offer made to repost the question in this thread. Explanation for deleted thread. Apology for deleted thread. Assurance it won't happen again.

Original question never asked again, because it's obviously SOOO much easier to bitch, piss, moan, and question the integrity of the volunteers that make this forum happen.

Sheesh....

 

City's response over the top? If you have followed any Lancaster forums, you'd know some of the posters' personalities, and to me, City calls a spade a spade. Sometimes bluntly.

To me, his response merely pointed out options available. I agree.

 

Numerous people not joining because one person said what most were thinking? I'd tend to think more would - I did!

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Numerous people not joining because one person said what most were thinking? I'd tend to think more would - I did!

 

Why thank you. :wub: It's nice to know that someone appeciates that being an asshole is sometimes part of the job.

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