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Revealed: CitizenGo, the Trump-linked ‘Super PAC’ working behind the scenes to drive Europe’s voters to the far right

A controversial Madrid-based campaign group, supported by American and Russian ultra-conservatives, is working across Europe to drive voters towards far-right parties in next month’s European Parliament elections and in Spain’s national elections this Sunday, openDemocracy can reveal today.

Our findings have caused alarm among lawmakers who fear that Trump-linked conservatives are working with European allies to import a controversial US-style ‘Super PAC’ model of political campaigning to Europe – opening the door to large amounts of ‘dark money’ flowing unchecked into elections and referenda.

The Madrid-based campaign group CitizenGo is best known for its online petitions against same-sex marriage, sex education and abortion – and for driving buses across cities with slogans against LGBT rights and “feminazis”.

But now openDemocracy can reveal new evidence of “extraordinary coordination” between this group and far-right parties across Europe – from Spain to Italy, Germany and Hungary.

In Spain, CitizenGo is supporting the far-right party Vox that is expected to make big gains this weekend, winning seats in the country’s parliament for the first time and potentially forming part of the new government.

Speaking to our undercover reporter posing as a potential donor, CitizenGo’s director described plans to run attack ads against Vox’s political opponents, and talked about how to get around campaign finance laws.

Meanwhile a senior Vox official compared CitizenGo to a “Super PAC” in the US, referring to the controversial groups that can spend unlimited sums influencing elections in America – and which are known for aggressive, negative campaigning.

openDemocracy can further reveal today how CitizenGo has been supported by an experienced American political fundraiser and tech consultant linked to the Trump campaign, the Republican Party and the Tea Party movement, who boasted of being able to use controversial technology to collect personal data about potential voters.

much more at

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/revealed-the-trump-linked-super-pac-working-behind-the-scenes-to-drive-europes-voters-to-the-far-right/

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speaking of super-PACs,

 

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back on topic:

 

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Hope all goes well for the Right.  Glad to be associated with it.

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prettylight
2 hours ago, grieker said:

Hope all goes well for the Right.  Glad to be associated with it.

glad if you aren't working for a cause you hate, Grieker...that's good

but ---> :no:

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grieker
26 minutes ago, prettylight said:

glad if you aren't working for a cause you hate, Grieker...that's good

but ---> :no:

Socialism has never worked ANYWHERE - why to progressives think it is time to try again?

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GeezUS
8 minutes ago, grieker said:

Socialism has never worked ANYWHERE - why to progressives think it is time to try again?

Why do RepubliCUNTs whine about socialism when they are practicing it right now by giving handouts to farmers because of RUMP's TAX (tariffs)?

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grieker
3 minutes ago, GeezUS said:

Why do RepubliCUNTs whine about socialism when they are practicing it right now by giving handouts to farmers because of RUMP's TAX (tariffs)?

Short-term pains for long-term gains are plausible.

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2 minutes ago, prettylight said:

Long-term gains for what percentage of the people?

guessing just more gains for the few who are already privileged.

Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor - Wikipedia

 

100% of the people PL.  Progressive pessimism is a sad way to live.

No one has ever been employed successfully by a poor person,  just as a reminder.

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Just now, grieker said:

100% of the people PL.  Progressive pessimism is a sad way to live.

No one has ever been employed successfully by a poor person,  just as a reminder.

thank you for the reminder of that logical fallacy.

would like to see that one deconstructed/explained, like the recent posts about that other logical fallacy, "Guns don't kill people; people kill people."

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grieker
10 minutes ago, prettylight said:

thank you for the reminder of that logical fallacy.

would like to see that one deconstructed/explained, like the recent posts about that other logical fallacy, "Guns don't kill people; people kill people."

Not sure what explanation is needed there for ya PL.  No fallacy - as with guns don't kill.  People do that with various methods.

 

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1 minute ago, GeezUS said:

Man o man you just love feeding your brain RUMP bullshit...

https://truthornonsense.com/tariffs-possible-short-term-gain-sure-long-term-pain/

Your mentality is what's wrong with America.  You believe we should continue to allow foreign countries to rape us, continue sending billions to foreign countries that hate us and free everything for everyone.

 

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14 minutes ago, grieker said:

Not sure what explanation is needed there for ya PL.  No fallacy - as with guns don't kill.  People do that with various methods.

 

 

The most common answer to any question involving why we need to treat the wealthy so special is: Have you ever gotten a job from a poor person?

To the average or below average mind, this response makes a lot of sense. To someone with a grasp of logic, however, the response has a fallacious predicate (a logical fallacy with an unstated major premise).

First, the response (stance) implies that “only” the wealthy supply jobs (since the question concerned “the wealthy),” and secondly, the premise assumes that wealth creates jobs in the first place.

This premise is easily debunked by facts. First fact: most jobs in America come from small businesses. The owners of small businesses are not wealthy. They might be rich, but they are not wealthy. To understand real wealth, picture Bill Gates waking up one morning with Oprah’s money. They’re both rich, but Bill Gates is wealthy.

Second fact: wealth does not create jobs; demand creates jobs. This is basic economics. No demand = no jobs. High demand = many jobs. Giving money to the wealthy (in the form of tax breaks) creates ZERO demand.

Adam Smith, an economist who lived during our American Revolution, and the Father of Capitalism, stated quite clearly that the strength of any economy resides in its workforce. If the workforce is poor, the economy is weak; if the workforce has money to spend, the economy is healthy.

more at

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/on_taxing_wealth.htm

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28 minutes ago, grieker said:

Your mentality is what's wrong with America.  You believe we should continue to allow foreign countries to rape us, continue sending billions to foreign countries that hate us and free everything for everyone.

 

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11 minutes ago, prettylight said:

 

The most common answer to any question involving why we need to treat the wealthy so special is: Have you ever gotten a job from a poor person?

To the average or below average mind, this response makes a lot of sense. To someone with a grasp of logic, however, the response has a fallacious predicate (a logical fallacy with an unstated major premise).

First, the response (stance) implies that “only” the wealthy supply jobs (since the question concerned “the wealthy),” and secondly, the premise assumes that wealth creates jobs in the first place.

This premise is easily debunked by facts. First fact: most jobs in America come from small businesses. The owners of small businesses are not wealthy. They might be rich, but they are not wealthy. To understand real wealth, picture Bill Gates waking up one morning with Oprah’s money. They’re both rich, but Bill Gates is wealthy.

Second fact: wealth does not create jobs; demand creates jobs. This is basic economics. No demand = no jobs. High demand = many jobs. Giving money to the wealthy (in the form of tax breaks) creates ZERO demand.

Adam Smith, an economist who lived during our American Revolution, and the Father of Capitalism, stated quite clearly that the strength of any economy resides in its workforce. If the workforce is poor, the economy is weak; if the workforce has money to spend, the economy is healthy.

more at

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/editorial/on_taxing_wealth.htm

Ah yes, the old Scottish bloke.  The father of capitalism.

It's very difficult for a poor person to employ ANYONE.  Just try it PL.

Progressives continuously degrade and bitch about the "wealthy" apparently anyone  in the 6+ figure income.

It is the top 10% that pay over 80% of all taxes!  Imagine if they all took their ball and went home.

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Just now, grieker said:

Ah yes, the old Scottish bloke.  The father of capitalism.

It's very difficult for a poor person to employ ANYONE.  Just try it PL.

 

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Just now, prettylight said:

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Your pic is a lie PL.

Just providing for the criminals that broke into America costs @ $119 BILLION per year.

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Farmer Vincent
24 minutes ago, grieker said:

Your pic is a lie PL.

Just providing for the criminals that broke into America costs @ $119 BILLION per year.

White collar criminals cost us plenty and they mostly get away with it.  

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5 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

White collar criminals cost us plenty and they mostly get away with it.  

Stop the influx of criminals, export them, then concentrate on the home-grown white collar criminals.

 

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Farmer Vincent
12 minutes ago, grieker said:

Stop the influx of criminals, export them, then concentrate on the home-grown white collar criminals.

 

It's part of the plan by the wealthy to make people like you look at poor people with accusing eyes while they rob the country.  

Proper oversight, regulation, consumer advocacy and anti-trust law should be returned to it's proper place so that America can be great again.  

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grieker
8 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

It's part of the plan by the wealthy to make people like you look at poor people with accusing eyes while they rob the country.  

Proper oversight, regulation, consumer advocacy and anti-trust law should be returned to it's proper place so that America can be great again.  

Sorry to disappoint ya Vince.  I do not look at ANY people with accusing eyes as a general rule.  SPECIFICALLY poor people IF, IF, IF they want to help, help themselves. 

Proper oversight is certainly in order after watching recent oversight committee activity.

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9 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

You defend the wealthy often, saying they provide all the jobs and denigrate anyone who, for any reason, can't find a way to be rich.  You insinuate that poor people are either lazy or criminals and that getting help when they need it isn't smart, it's being parasitic.  That's exactly what the handlers want you to think.  It's also what Russia wants you to think.  

It comes down to what kind of society we want to live in.  Should the richest country in the world have a homelessness problem, children going hungry, the elderly not being able to afford drugs, and people not being able to afford medical care or going bankrupt because of it?  I say no.  We can do better. 

Should having wealth mean having political influence that counts a hundred thousand times more than my vote?  I say no to that too.    

"You defend the wealthy often, saying they provide all the jobs and denigrate anyone who, for any reason, can't find a way to be rich." 

That is an Out-and-out lie Vince and you know better.

 

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32 minutes ago, grieker said:

"You defend the wealthy often, saying they provide all the jobs and denigrate anyone who, for any reason, can't find a way to be rich." 

That is an Out-and-out lie Vince and you know better.

 

Your condition for not denigrating the poor is if they help themselves.  But since they're poor you assume they aren't trying hard enough.  But you can't identify if someone is trying or not in a position to for health reasons, only giving all the blanket designation of being takers.  I'm guilty of lumping the rich together, even knowing that there are many exceptions to being takers themselves.  For you, societies problems stem from the poor.  To me, from the rich with too much influence in tipping the scales in their favor.  

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29 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Your condition for not denigrating the poor is if they help themselves.  But since they're poor you assume they aren't trying hard enough.  But you can't identify if someone is trying or not in a position to for health reasons, only giving all the blanket designation of being takers.  I'm guilty of lumping the rich together, even knowing that there are many exceptions to being takers themselves.  For you, societies problems stem from the poor.  To me, from the rich with too much influence in tipping the scales in their favor.  

Vince!  Where the hell do you get your deducing skills?

Find ANYTHING ANYWHERE that I've said that can bolster your accusations! 

I see, talk with, greet, whatever you want to call it, poor people, homeless, less well-off people each and every day of my life.  I CAN identify with tremendous accuracy those who are not trying.  All it takes if a few minutes of chat-time with them Vince.  

I HAVE NEVER given a blanket "ALL"  designation of being takers.  You may be guilty of "lumping" the rich together - but I do not remember you ever saying ALL the rich or ALL the wealthy.  Rarely will you see me say or hear me refer to ALL of anything.  With few exceptions.  Here's one.  ALL radical Islamic Muslims should be killed!

Society's problems do not stem from the poor - NOT even according to me.  The poor's problems stem from progressives and their failed social experimentation, coddling, justifying, rationalizing and hand-outs for example. 

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50 minutes ago, grieker said:

Vince!  Where the hell do you get your deducing skills?

Find ANYTHING ANYWHERE that I've said that can bolster your accusations! 

I see, talk with, greet, whatever you want to call it, poor people, homeless, less well-off people each and every day of my life.  I CAN identify with tremendous accuracy those who are not trying.  All it takes if a few minutes of chat-time with them Vince.  

I HAVE NEVER given a blanket "ALL"  designation of being takers.  You may be guilty of "lumping" the rich together - but I do not remember you ever saying ALL the rich or ALL the wealthy.  Rarely will you see me say or hear me refer to ALL of anything.  With few exceptions.  Here's one.  ALL radical Islamic Muslims should be killed!

Society's problems do not stem from the poor - NOT even according to me.  The poor's problems stem from progressives and their failed social experimentation, coddling, justifying, rationalizing and hand-outs for example. 

Which are you for?  Tax breaks for the rich or for expanding Social Security?  We can't have both.  Getting rid of Obamacare or universal healthcare?  Do you want women to become the property of states?  Do you want to see civil rights reversed and minorities loose the right to vote?  

The answers to questions like these indicates what kind of society you want to see happen.  Choosing the plan that is presented to you by oligarchs will include taking away social safety nets that already lets many fall through the cracks and will leave a system that extracts every dollar from the less fortunate and every drop of oil from a planet that's being wrecked for profit.    That's the way of present day conservatives.  

I don't think I have to preach the alternative.  That's been done enough.  

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