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Yesterday, Maria Ressa, the editor of Rappler, an independent news website in the Philippines (spoke) from her home country, where it was the middle of the night. Ressa described...how Rappler has been gearing up to cover critical elections in the Philippines, which will take place early next week. In the days that follow, Ressa will face arraignment in a Philippines court. In recent months, she has twice been arrested by the government of Rodrigo Duterte, an authoritarian leader who has waged a sustained campaign of harassment and disinformation against independent-minded journalists, in general, and Ressa, in particular.

Her arrests, and broader treatment by her government, are a clear example of the security threats against journalists emanating from malicious state actors around the world—actors who have only been emboldened by the Trump administration’s aggressive anti-press rhetoric. As the founder of a web-native publication in a developing media environment, however, Ressa’s experience of the disinformation war goes far beyond physical impediments to her freedom. “Welcome to my Alice in Wonderland world,” Ressa said.

https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/maria-ressa-disinformation-war.php

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Zeynep Tufekci, a techno-sociologist who writes for The New York Times and Wired, discussed the overwhelming effect of junk information on our public sphere, and the role of social media platforms in disseminating it. Tufekci argued that, in the 21st century, a surfeit of information, rather than its absence, poses the biggest problem. “When I was growing up in Turkey, the way censorship occurred was there was one TV channel and they wouldn’t show you stuff. That was it,” she said. “Currently, in my conceptualization, the way censorship occurs is by information glut. It’s not that the relevant information isn’t out there. But it is buried in so much information of suspect credibility that it doesn’t mean anything.” Tufekci cited the frenzied reporting, during the 2016 election, on WikiLeaks’s dump of hacked Democratic Party emails—much of which lacked crucial context—as a malign example of the trend. “I don’t think traditional journalism has caught up on this,” she said.

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23 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Trump's war on the White House press corps, essentially picking who can get in and only having a rare impromptu press conference on the White House driveway, is another step towards a dictatorship.  

 

The thought occurs to me that they're not missing much, in that he lies nonstop anyway.

And when he's not lying, he's throwing out some inflammatory grenade, to get people all wrapped around the axle.

Or both.

 

but that is missing your good point, FV. You're right.

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3 hours ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Trump's war on the White House press corps, essentially picking who can get in and only having a rare impromptu press conference on the White House driveway, is another step towards a dictatorship.  

Anyone with an intelligence quotient over 40 recognizes the bias in the lyin progressive fake news media machines.  No one an iota of smarts would invite a criminal into their home if they knew they were a criminal.

Hell even the lyin progressive fake news media machines admit they are biased.

 

 

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2 hours ago, grieker said:

Anyone with an intelligence quotient over 40 recognizes the bias in the lyin progressive fake news media machines.  No one an iota of smarts would invite a criminal into their home if they knew they were a criminal.

Hell even the lyin progressive fake news media machines admit they are biased.

 

 

They're biased towards the truth and that's what intelligent people want.  

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28 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

They're biased towards the truth and that's what intelligent people want.  

Uh huh Vince, sure.

What happened to the RUSSIAN COLLUSION horse hockey that was laid out each and every hour of the day for the last 26 months? 

Or are you one of those progressives swashing back and forth in the cesspool of "Mueller's a good guy", "Mueller's a bad guy"?

The disinformation is predominately created and reported on by the lyin progressive fake news media machines.

 

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1 hour ago, Farmer Vincent said:

You're feeding on the disinformation campaign that's coming out of the White House and Barr. Why is it that they're so desperate to keep the full Mueller report secret?  Trump (and you) claims that it fully exonerates, so why do the opposite of bringing that to light?   They're acting like a three year old who broke a lamp and are trying to blame the dog.  "The dog was running and .. and .. look over there."

For one - it is illegal to release grand jury information.

I differ with what you are insinuating Vince.  The progressives want all things ever touched or thought about by Trump and/or anyoneanything who know, dealt with or ever saw Trump because they HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING.  They cannot allow Trump to be president any longer since he was never supposed to be president.

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8 hours ago, Pastor of Muppets said:

A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point. We have all experienced the futility of trying to change a strong conviction, especially if the convinced person has some investment in his belief. We are familiar with the variety of ingenious defenses with which people protect their convictions, managing to keep them unscathed through the most devastating attacks.

But man’s resourcefulness goes beyond simply protecting a belief. Suppose an individual believes something with his whole heart; suppose further that he has a commitment to this belief, that he has taken irrevocable actions because of it; finally, suppose that he is presented with evidence, unequivocal and undeniable evidence, that his belief is wrong: what will happen? The individual will frequently emerge, not only unshaken, but even more convinced of the truth of his beliefs than ever before. Indeed, he may even show a new fervor about convincing and converting other people to his view.

WOW!  Bunch of suppositions there bud.

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On 5/28/2019 at 7:56 AM, prettylight said:

 

Like to know where UsHadrons "found" this.

Anyone not knowing Trump did not serve is a moron and anyone spreading this kind of information is a divisive ass-hat hoping to stir more shit in the pot.

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3 minutes ago, grieker said:

Like to know where UsHadrons "found" this.

Anyone not knowing Trump did not serve is a moron and anyone spreading this kind of information is a divisive ass-hat hoping to stir more shit in the pot.

apparently it was circulating on social media. More about it here:

In late August 2018, a reality-challenged meme circulated on social media that led some viewers to believe future U.S. president Donald Trump had not only been taken prisoner in Vietnam in 1963, but he had also been rescued by a young Soviet soldier who turned out to be future Russian president Vladimir Putin:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vladimir-putin-rescued-trump-vietnam/

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29 minutes ago, prettylight said:

apparently it was circulating on social media. More about it here:

In late August 2018, a reality-challenged meme circulated on social media that led some viewers to believe future U.S. president Donald Trump had not only been taken prisoner in Vietnam in 1963, but he had also been rescued by a young Soviet soldier who turned out to be future Russian president Vladimir Putin:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/vladimir-putin-rescued-trump-vietnam/

Again, anyone not knowing, takes a simple search, that Trump did not serve is an ignor-anus.

This particular meme has progressive fingerprints all over it.

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2 minutes ago, grieker said:

Again, anyone not knowing, takes a simple search, that Trump did not serve is an ignor-anus.

This particular meme has progressive fingerprints all over it.

You mean, as a joke?

Was wondering, seriously, if it was Russian-generated, since disinformation seems to be a big tactic of theirs.

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Just now, prettylight said:

You mean, as a joke?

Was wondering, seriously, if it was Russian-generated, since disinformation seems to be a big tactic of theirs.

Likely RUSSIAN because they didn't want Trump and this would have a direct negative effect on Trump.  Just like the negative effect Doomenthal brought on himself with his stolen valor lies.

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23 minutes ago, grieker said:

Likely RUSSIAN because they didn't want Trump and this would have a direct negative effect on Trump.

 

How would it have a negative effect on him? It makes him look like a brave military guy (although they must be banking on Americans being incredibly ignorant, as you pointed out, not to know he didn't serve). And fit in some pro-Putin mythology, for good measure. Assuming Americans are idiots with less than zero grasp of history.

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^

You'd think everyone would know it, but what if a lot of people (who don't even watch Fox News--to give Fox News credit, even they probably make it clear Trump didn't serve--but are on Facebook) have gone down a rabbit hole of disinformation, and are being bombarded with things like this?

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10 minutes ago, grieker said:

If you visit facebook, instagram, twitter (I know you do twitter), you will find over 95% of political  information either distorted greatly or just fake news lies.

There is no shortage of morons who see something and "share" it perpetuating the lies across the web.

Yes! Exactly.

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20 minutes ago, grieker said:

If you visit facebook, instagram, twitter (I know you do twitter), you will find over 95% of political  information either distorted greatly or just fake news lies.

There is no shortage of morons who see something and "share" it perpetuating the lies across the web.

Then why do you keep doing it?

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23 minutes ago, Pastor of Muppets said:

Then why do you keep doing it?

Same reason I use cash man.

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2 hours ago, grieker said:

Same reason I use cash man.

Interesting.

What is the Ruble/USD exchange rate these days?

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