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America's fertility rate and the number of births nationwide are continuing to decline.

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grieker

Many societies die off after a few hundred years - apparently America is no exception.  We will be replaced by Muslims with them becoming the majority in just a short few decades.

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prettylight
1 minute ago, grieker said:

Many societies die off after a few hundred years - apparently America is no exception.  We will be replaced by Muslims with them becoming the majority in just a short few decades.

well, Americans should be forced to have children, then.

:sarcasm:

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6 minutes ago, prettylight said:

well, Americans should be forced to have children, then.

:sarcasm:

We're already below our replacement fertility rate and killing 'em certainly ain't helping the big picture, but that's another issue.

 

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1 minute ago, grieker said:

We're already below our replacement fertility rate and killing 'em certainly ain't helping the big picture, but that's another issue.

 

Wondering if maybe more people would want to have children, if they were encouraged about the world they were bringing them into?

Working people not having so much trouble earning a living wage, better stewardship of the environment their children will inherit?

 

maybe the living wage part is something that concerns people when they're thinking of having a family?

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1 minute ago, prettylight said:

Wondering if maybe more people would want to have children, if they were encouraged about the world they were bringing them into?

Working people not having so much trouble earning a living wage, better stewardship of the environment their children will inherit?

 

maybe the living wage part is something that concerns people when they're thinking of having a family?

When you have the likes of mental midgets Cortez and Bozo telling everyone the world will end in not 12 years but 10 years and don't have any children - certainly doesn't help.  

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Just now, grieker said:

When you have the likes of mental midgets Cortez and Bozo telling everyone the world will end in not 12 years but 10 years and don't have any children - certainly doesn't help.  

It would be nice if this country could prioritize environmental stewardship over corporate greed, for the sake of future generations.

The executives might want to think of their own children and grandchildren.

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2 minutes ago, prettylight said:

It would be nice if this country could prioritize environmental stewardship over corporate greed, for the sake of future generations.

The executives might want to think of their own children and grandchildren.

Be really nice if the lies about man-made global warming and we can stop it, would stop.  Using bad data NEVER results in successful outcomes.

Maybe when America is gone, the newcomers can take on stewardship.

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12 minutes ago, grieker said:

Be really nice if the lies about man-made global warming and we can stop it, would stop.  Using bad data NEVER results in successful outcomes.

Maybe when America is gone, the newcomers can take on stewardship.

 

America, where there is now a well-funded, vocal right wing constantly and falsely accusing earnest experts of lying and "fake news."  :(

this toxic political environment might make it even more of an optimistic leap of faith to have kids.

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1 minute ago, prettylight said:

 

America, where there is now a well-funded, vocal right wing constantly and falsely accusing earnest experts of lying and "fake news."  :(

this toxic political environment might make it even more of an optimistic leap of faith to have kids.

No false accusations, unless you are referring to the "scientists" and lyin progressive fake news media machines spewing their lies about millions of extinctions in the upcoming years and the liar Bill Nye who said "The Fucking World Is On Fire" bullshit, then I agree.

 

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^

it's even making Bill Nye swear.

:no:

 

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grieker
13 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

If we don't drop population growth then nature will do it for us.  The wold will need 56% more food than is produced now if population continues to increase as it is now.  And this comes at a time when global warming is causing flooding or droughts in a lot of arable lands.  That's why I say banning abortion or making contraceptives hard to get for poor people is the wrong thing to do.  But we can always count on Republicans to do the wrong thing.  

Food is not a problem Vince.  One of the largest food exporters is one of the smallest countries.  Food is not an issue.  Food production will remain ahead of demand.  

Global warming issues are not controllable by human, nor are they heightened by human activity.

Rather than killing off babies Vince, why not use the "Logan's Run" mentality and kill off the old and weak?  Eliminating the free healthcare would have similar effect.

 

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20 minutes ago, grieker said:

Rather than killing off babies Vince, why not use the "Logan's Run" mentality and kill off the old and weak?  Eliminating the free healthcare would have similar effect.

 

Why kill off anybody? I thought you said this country needed more people?

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8 minutes ago, prettylight said:

Why kill off anybody? I thought you said this country needed more people?

Nope, never said we needed more people.

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9 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Food is a problem.  

 

How Climate Change Will Alter Our Food

"The world population is expected to grow to almost 10 billion by 2050. With 3.4 billion more mouths to feed, and the growing desire of the middle class for meat and dairy in developing countries, global demand for food could increase by between 59 and 98 percent. This means that agriculture around the world needs to step up production and increase yields. But scientists say that the impacts of climate change—higher temperatures, extreme weather, drought, increasing levels of carbon dioxide and sea level rise—threaten to decrease the quantity and jeopardize the quality of our food supplies."

https://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2018/07/25/climate-change-food-agriculture/

Vince, food is not a problem.

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3 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Maybe we'll get to the point where euthanasia will become broadly legal and then some politician suggests "voluntary transitioning" (family members get a big tax credit when one of them commits suicide) that gains support.  

Great idea.

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28 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Maybe we'll get to the point where euthanasia will become broadly legal and then some politician suggests "voluntary transitioning" (family members get a big tax credit when one of them commits suicide) that gains support.  

remember all the right-wing howling about (nonexistent) death panels? Leave it to them to try to create something like that, though.

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26 minutes ago, grieker said:

Great idea.

 

thinking of how elderly people can be a great source of love and support, even if they don't physically do what younger people do.

even Republicans need love❤️

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15 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Do you have a legitimate study that suggests that or are you going by some no-background in science politician who says CO2 is good?  Remember, as of now there are more malnourished people in the world than ever and famines are becoming more common in some countries.  One of the risks is that there are famine refugees that are crossing borders in seek of nourishment and it's straining the supplies in those neighboring countries, which in turn poses security risks.  

 

4 ways climate change could cause food shortages  https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/08/4-ways-climate-change-could-cause-food-shortages/

Climate change could raise food insecurity risk  https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180402085901.htm

Finding new ways to feed the world  https://climate.nasa.gov/blog/2711/finding-new-ways-to-feed-the-world/

Absolutely.  Precision farming as an example.  "The global average yield of potatoes per acre is about nine tons. Van den Borne’s fields reliably produce more than 20."

The Netherlands is "feeding the world" from their grossly overpopulated (1200 people per square mile) country with innovative farming that has reduced the need for water by 90%.

Food ain't a problem.

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21 minutes ago, grieker said:

Absolutely.  Precision farming as an example.  "The global average yield of potatoes per acre is about nine tons. Van den Borne’s fields reliably produce more than 20."

The Netherlands is "feeding the world" from their grossly overpopulated (1200 people per square mile) country with innovative farming that has reduced the need for water by 90%.

Food ain't a problem.

Population exceeding resources is the problem as well as climate causing droughts in at risk regions.  Is the problem money to buy food or distribution?  If so, those problems will only be magnified down the road when the population continues to explode and the climate crisis intensifies.  

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